[Rockape, Campbell and Turner all enter QRoys - Rockape heads to the bar and gets three drinks]
OK Mr Campbell, so you joined the ATC huh. Well, it just so happens that I'm a Civilian Instructor with the Air Cadets. So, tell me more about your unit.
ok, were at broxburn pythol hall um... our officers are Flt Lt A Kerr, Plt Off Owen, AWO J Howat and were waiting on the paperwork coming through for two of our AS's and we ahve a few CIs plus an HCI. Our CNco's are Flt Sgt S Gordon- Sgt A Robb and 6 Cdt Cpl's and a load off cadets what about yours?
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Greg Campbell
Lieutenant
Chief Flight Control Officer
Starbase 49
After that we have two other officers (one who works away a lot, so we don't see much of him). An A/WO Chris Seddon, and currently 3 CIs (me being one) one being the ex OC and one being an ex Cadet WO.
We seem to be struggling at the moment with numbers. But, I guess as the winter nights draw in, we may get a few more bodies.
So,
As an Intruduction to Military Life, how are you enjoying the Cadets? Is it what you thought it would be, and has it put you off joining the Regulars yet
I remember as a regular to used to make fun of the Cadets. But now I'm an instructor then seem ok.
The only thing that sometimes annoys me is that (apart from one of our officers) None of the current uniformed staff have served in the Regulars. But, maybe that's just me being snobby
Pah the navy!!! nah the navys cool with me, and yeah we have quite a big squadron but we could still use more and itsa just as I imagined and Im joining as a pilot rockape- but its gonna be amazing-plus Ive got a gliding scholarship coming up so that should be fun.
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Greg Campbell
Lieutenant
Chief Flight Control Officer
Starbase 49
Zachary A.  Turner link=1191279819/0#4 date=1191738279 wrote:
Oct 15. 2008 i join the US Navy....  I cant wait....
Congratulations.
What trade are you joining as?
I know I enjoyed my years of service in the Royal Air Force, and I hope you will enjoy your time in the Service as well.
Just a bit of advise if I may? During your basic training, the instructors have two goals: 1) Teach you everything you need to know to get into the Service. 2) Make you fail, and leave. That may sound strange, but it's true and here's why. They only want people in the Service who really want to be there. So, by making your time hard during basic training, they are testing your resolve. If you can keep your mind focused on the end goal, passing out, and joining the Service properly you'll get through it all.
Pah the navy!!! nah the navys cool with me, and yeah we have quite a big squadron but we could still use more and itsa just as I imagined and Im  joining as a pilot rockape- but its gonna be amazing-plus Ive got a gliding scholarship coming up so that should be fun.
Now young man, we've had this conversation before I think??!!
Bear in mind most people want to join the RAF as a Pilot, and very few actually succeed. The main reason most people fail is fitness. Not necessarily their level of fitness, just that they may not pass the Flying medical requirements. So, always have a backup option. And, I don't mean navigator, although of course the Flying medical is less stringent for a "backseat/failed Pilot" Think about another branch as well (if you want to join as an Officer). That way, if you don't succeed, at least you will have a backup plan. Trust me, I've seen loads of people over the years want to join as a Pilot, don't get accepted, and then have no idea what they want to do.
Zachary A.  Turner link=1191279819/0#4 date=1191738279 wrote:
Oct 15. 2008 i join the US Navy....  I cant wait....
Congratulations. ÂÂ
What trade are you joining as?
I know I enjoyed my years of service in the Royal Air Force, and I hope you will enjoy your time in the Service as well. ÂÂ
Just a bit of advise if I may?  During your basic training, the instructors have two goals:  1) Teach you everything you need to know to get into the Service.  2) Make you fail, and leave.  That may sound strange, but it's true and here's why.  They only want people in the Service who really want to be there.  So, by making your time hard during basic training, they are testing your resolve.  If you can keep your mind focused on the end goal, passing out, and joining the Service properly you'll get through it all. ÂÂ
Good luck
That i kind of knew...
and I will be going in as an Electrician. but ive already graduated Sea Cadets. so thats a good thing. I already know what they need me to know....
Granted, I may be the farthest thing from an expert in the room, but, I hardly think that basic trainings merely a refresher if youve come from cadets? No offence, but I dont see any military having it that easy ^^
Granted, I may be the farthest thing from an expert in the room, but, I hardly think that basic trainings merely a refresher if youve come from cadets? No offence, but I dont see any military having it that easy ^^
Very true. Whilst being in the cadets gives you the edge on understanding discipline and such like. The basic training is totally different, in that whilst there you pretty much eat, sleep, think military. Whereas of course with the Cadets, you get to go home and "forget" about it until your next parade night. By no means is it a refresher, it will be like nothing you have ever done in the Cadets. For a start, the instructors will be able to punish you in ways that Cadets instructors can't, and you wont be able to say, "I'm sorry, but your not allowed to do that". Try that and you'll find you punishment increasing
I do remember that sir, but I only answered in the respet that I plan on going in as a pilot but the amont of back up options I have more than covers me to do something else, but on Zachs point I must defend him and say that a cadet career prior to entrance of a millitary service is a great boost as you do not need to be taught everything such as drill, it just needs perfecting
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Greg Campbell
Lieutenant
Chief Flight Control Officer
Starbase 49
I do remember that sir, but I only answered in the respet that I plan on going in as a pilot but the amont of back up options I have more than covers me to do something else, but on Zachs point I must defend him and say that a cadet career prior to entrance of a millitary service is a great boost as you do not need to be taught everything such as drill, it just needs perfecting
Oh I agree entirely. Having prior knowledge of drill, and uniform prep etc will make your life easier. But, just remember, don't let the instructors know you've been in the Cadets. It will give them something to tease you about. Trust me on that one. The less information you give them, the less they have to "pick" on you for. But all said and done, if you look past the grind, basic training can be great. You sometimes makes friends for life. Whilst a regular, I bumped into a few people from my basic training days, and it was great to keep in touch with them. And most importantly of all with regards basic training. Keep you eye on the finishing post, it will make the time pass quicker
Another Navy.... YAHOOOO! I'm former Navy. It's been quite a chunk of change for me tho.... Almost twenty years. I was a hospital corpsman. I really enjoyed it.
The other job of basic training is to teach you to survive on the battlefield. Whatever that battlefield might be either by land or sea you face dangers and they don't want someone ill equipped to deal with it... or freaking out at the first explosion. You need to be able to focus on your job and try to put the other things around you in perspective so you and your unit, ship whatever can survive.
Another Navy.... YAHOOOO! I'm former Navy. It's been quite a chunk of change for me tho.... Almost twenty years. I was a hospital corpsman. I really enjoyed it.
The other job of basic training is to teach you to survive on the battlefield. Whatever that battlefield might be either by land or sea you face dangers and they don't want someone ill equipped to deal with it... or freaking out at the first explosion. You need to be able to focus on your job and try to put the other things around you in perspective so you and your unit, ship whatever can survive.
Good luck in the Navy.
Yesm that makes sence an ill-equied soldier is greatly frowned upon, and Athena I had no idea that you served in the Navy. I plan to be and Electricians Mate. Hopefully the Enterprise herself...
LOL- yeah unfortunately we dont ahve any craft named after any trek things, but I can always set up my nickname so that its scotty or Enterprise- wow we have quite a few of us going into the servcies, its no bad at all!!
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Greg Campbell
Lieutenant
Chief Flight Control Officer
Starbase 49
I think everyone should pull a tour of duty in one of the Military Services no matter what country you live in. That way you see first hand. Unless your like Roy, a collage man. :P
I would have loved to join the military, probably the navy if there was an exploratory part to the job. Pity there's not much of this planet left to explore. Except for deep in the jungles, and the bottoms of the oceans, and under the ice caps, hmmm. Quite a bit actually.
Zachary A.  Turner link=1191279819/15#27 date=1198033038 wrote:
Hello, All,
Today I went though MEPS [Military Entrance Processing Station] and got my Career, I ship out 2008.04.16,
I am a  Cryptologic Technician Maintenance [CTM] its not the easiest career to get into,
on the ASVAB I got an AFQT of 70
My ET and Math Scores were Outstanding
Ok, I was with your right up till you said "Today I went though MEPS [Military Entrance Processing Station] and got my Career, I ship out 2008.04.16,", after that, I think you changed languages
James, Rockape, dont feel bad. asvab is the test we have to take to see if we get into the military and what career we are allowed to take and the afqt is basically the average score, i got a 70 which is extremely good, only needed a 35,
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ok, were at broxburn pythol hall um... our officers are Flt Lt A Kerr, Plt Off Owen, AWO J Howat and were waiting on the paperwork coming through for two of our AS's and we ahve a few CIs plus an HCI. Our CNco's are Flt Sgt S Gordon- Sgt A Robb and 6 Cdt Cpl's and a load off cadets what about yours?
Greg Campbell
Lieutenant
Chief Flight Control Officer
Starbase 49
552 posts
Ok our Boss is Flt Lt Bohanna,
After that we have two other officers (one who works away a lot, so we don't see much of him). An A/WO Chris Seddon, and currently 3 CIs (me being one) one being the ex OC and one being an ex Cadet WO.
We seem to be struggling at the moment with numbers. But, I guess as the winter nights draw in, we may get a few more bodies.
So,
As an Intruduction to Military Life, how are you enjoying the Cadets? Is it what you thought it would be, and has it put you off joining the Regulars yet
I remember as a regular to used to make fun of the Cadets. But now I'm an instructor then seem ok.
The only thing that sometimes annoys me is that (apart from one of our officers) None of the current uniformed staff have served in the Regulars. But, maybe that's just me being snobby
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Sounds like you have quite a large Squadron.
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Oct 15. 2008 i join the US Navy.... I cant wait....
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Pah the navy!!! nah the navys cool with me, and yeah we have quite a big squadron but we could still use more and itsa just as I imagined and Im joining as a pilot rockape- but its gonna be amazing-plus Ive got a gliding scholarship coming up so that should be fun.
Greg Campbell
Lieutenant
Chief Flight Control Officer
Starbase 49
552 posts
Congratulations.
What trade are you joining as?
I know I enjoyed my years of service in the Royal Air Force, and I hope you will enjoy your time in the Service as well.
Just a bit of advise if I may? During your basic training, the instructors have two goals: 1) Teach you everything you need to know to get into the Service. 2) Make you fail, and leave. That may sound strange, but it's true and here's why. They only want people in the Service who really want to be there. So, by making your time hard during basic training, they are testing your resolve. If you can keep your mind focused on the end goal, passing out, and joining the Service properly you'll get through it all.
Good luck
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Now young man, we've had this conversation before I think??!!
Bear in mind most people want to join the RAF as a Pilot, and very few actually succeed. The main reason most people fail is fitness. Not necessarily their level of fitness, just that they may not pass the Flying medical requirements. So, always have a backup option. And, I don't mean navigator, although of course the Flying medical is less stringent for a "backseat/failed Pilot" Think about another branch as well (if you want to join as an Officer). That way, if you don't succeed, at least you will have a backup plan. Trust me, I've seen loads of people over the years want to join as a Pilot, don't get accepted, and then have no idea what they want to do.
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That i kind of knew...
and I will be going in as an Electrician. but ive already graduated Sea Cadets. so thats a good thing. I already know what they need me to know....
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Granted, I may be the farthest thing from an expert in the room, but, I hardly think that basic trainings merely a refresher if youve come from cadets? No offence, but I dont see any military having it that easy ^^
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No nor do it but you cannot deny Cadets will help me in my Career.
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Very true. Whilst being in the cadets gives you the edge on understanding discipline and such like. The basic training is totally different, in that whilst there you pretty much eat, sleep, think military. Whereas of course with the Cadets, you get to go home and "forget" about it until your next parade night. By no means is it a refresher, it will be like nothing you have ever done in the Cadets. For a start, the instructors will be able to punish you in ways that Cadets instructors can't, and you wont be able to say, "I'm sorry, but your not allowed to do that". Try that and you'll find you punishment increasing
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I do remember that sir, but I only answered in the respet that I plan on going in as a pilot but the amont of back up options I have more than covers me to do something else, but on Zachs point I must defend him and say that a cadet career prior to entrance of a millitary service is a great boost as you do not need to be taught everything such as drill, it just needs perfecting
Greg Campbell
Lieutenant
Chief Flight Control Officer
Starbase 49
552 posts
Oh I agree entirely. Having prior knowledge of drill, and uniform prep etc will make your life easier. But, just remember, don't let the instructors know you've been in the Cadets. It will give them something to tease you about. Trust me on that one. The less information you give them, the less they have to "pick" on you for. But all said and done, if you look past the grind, basic training can be great. You sometimes makes friends for life. Whilst a regular, I bumped into a few people from my basic training days, and it was great to keep in touch with them. And most importantly of all with regards basic training. Keep you eye on the finishing post, it will make the time pass quicker
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Lol, I read something about that once. Leave pictures of the girlfriend at home, and any clothing is best just being plain, and neutral colours :P.
Im considering joining up, but im not fit enough, and i love my computer to much. *snuggles*
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Lol ash.. well okay thanks for the tips guys....
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yeah same here the more the merrier thanks all!!
Greg Campbell
Lieutenant
Chief Flight Control Officer
Starbase 49
413 posts
Another Navy.... YAHOOOO! I'm former Navy. It's been quite a chunk of change for me tho.... Almost twenty years. I was a hospital corpsman. I really enjoyed it.
The other job of basic training is to teach you to survive on the battlefield. Whatever that battlefield might be either by land or sea you face dangers and they don't want someone ill equipped to deal with it... or freaking out at the first explosion. You need to be able to focus on your job and try to put the other things around you in perspective so you and your unit, ship whatever can survive.
Good luck in the Navy.
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Yesm that makes sence an ill-equied soldier is greatly frowned upon, and Athena I had no idea that you served in the Navy. I plan to be and Electricians Mate. Hopefully the Enterprise herself...
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LOL- yeah unfortunately we dont ahve any craft named after any trek things, but I can always set up my nickname so that its scotty or Enterprise- wow we have quite a few of us going into the servcies, its no bad at all!!
Greg Campbell
Lieutenant
Chief Flight Control Officer
Starbase 49
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the E is the American Flagship..... I belive. too bad shes going to be DeCom'd soon
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uh-huh. Your confusing me, the term is "United States Navy". "American flagship" could be the HMCS Iroquois. Prizes to whoever gets the reference.
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im Confusing myself. I meant CVN-65... SS Enterprise. Aircraft Carrier. Served in WWII
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You really are confusing yourself. CVN-65, the USS Enterprise was commisioned in 1961. Sometime after the second world war(!)
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okay i got it teh Enterprise CV-6 was decommisioned in 1947 than the Enterprise CVN-65 was built. i am hoping to get stationed on the CVN-65
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Enterprise_%28CV-6%29
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I think everyone should pull a tour of duty in one of the Military Services no matter what country you live in. That way you see first hand. Unless your like Roy, a collage man. :P
Captain Taylor
Commander Starbase 49
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I would have loved to join the military, probably the navy if there was an exploratory part to the job. Pity there's not much of this planet left to explore. Except for deep in the jungles, and the bottoms of the oceans, and under the ice caps, hmmm. Quite a bit actually.
First Officer
Starbase 49
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Hello, All,
Today I went though MEPS [Military Entrance Processing Station] and got my Career, I ship out 2008.04.16,
I am a Cryptologic Technician Maintenance [CTM] its not the easiest career to get into,
on the ASVAB I got an AFQT of 70
My ET and Math Scores were Outstanding
552 posts
Ok, I was with your right up till you said "Today I went though MEPS [Military Entrance Processing Station] and got my Career, I ship out 2008.04.16,", after that, I think you changed languages
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I was confused myself, then I googled it. Insert a '-' after technician and blonde me went 'aaaaah.'
First Officer
Starbase 49
1196 posts
James, Rockape, dont feel bad. asvab is the test we have to take to see if we get into the military and what career we are allowed to take and the afqt is basically the average score, i got a 70 which is extremely good, only needed a 35,