Star Trek- Nemesis

Adam Ristau
Lieutenant Commander
Chief Operations Officer, Starbase 49

Why do people say that was such a bad movie?  It had a little more action than a normal Star Trek movie, but it didn't lose the personal touch at all.  Not many movies can balance the two out like that.  Does anyone have personal opinions on this subject?

Athena Zoden
Commander
Chief Counselor, Starbase 49

I actually loved Nemesis. I actually loved these last three movies. It was like visiting home again. Llke watching TNG on tv all over again. The humor, action, comaradarie. It was all there and I loved it.

I couldn't get into Generations at all. It wasn't true to the characters.

But First Contact, Insurrection and Nemesis were well written, well acted, and well directed. I loved them.

Steven Smith
Lieutenant
Chief Strategic Operations Officer, Starbase 49

Nemisis was awesome. The action and plot were played out very well and the wedding sorta caught me off guard even though I knew it was coming sometime.

Steven Smith
Lieutenant
Chief Strategic Operations Officer, Starbase 49

Also, I don't think I've actually heard someone say it was a bad movie. Everyone I've talked to said it was awesome.

Roy Veldman
Commodore
Chief Fleet Construction Officer, Acacia Fleet

Can you please use the modify post link on the top of every post? You can always add something to a post afterwards. We don't allow multiple posts by a single person in a row.

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Steven Smith
Lieutenant
Chief Strategic Operations Officer, Starbase 49

Ok, I'll try to next time.

Kent Taylor
Captain
Commanding Officer, Starbase 49

Nemesis is a good movie, although Picard is most of the time in the spotlight, Whats up with that??? Surprized

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Athena Zoden
Commander
Chief Counselor, Starbase 49

Well, he is the captain. LOL

Kent Taylor
Captain
Commanding Officer, Starbase 49

Right, DUHHHHH!!! on me...

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Athena Zoden
Commander
Chief Counselor, Starbase 49

That's ok. You're allowed to have those moments. LOL. But remember Data had his moments in that film too. I think he out shined everyone in that movie.

Steven Smith
Lieutenant
Chief Strategic Operations Officer, Starbase 49

I think everyone had their mo=ment in the movie. Troi and Riker in the wedding, Data with B4, Worf having to go naked at the wedding at betazed, and Picard for the whole movie. Other people escape my mind right now.

Athena Zoden
Commander
Chief Counselor, Starbase 49

I agree. Everyone did. But Deanna had more then one. She got to mentally kick the Viceroy's butt. I loved that. LOL

Steven Smith
Lieutenant
Chief Strategic Operations Officer, Starbase 49

Lol, me too. I thought it was awesome when they found the ship mentally. I'll always remember that.

Athena Zoden
Commander
Chief Counselor, Starbase 49

There were times that I thought Deanna had so much more potential then what she was used for. The way she was dressed you know it was for the male fans. But I like when she was used for more then a beautiful face.

Deanna Troi can be a kick butt char when with the right circumstances and writing. Marina Sirtis did a great job with her. The only season I didn't like Troi was season 1 and it didn't have anything to do with the actress. It was the hair style and colours they had her in. Of course the more I watch them, part of me thinks that might have been intentional. To down play how beautiful Marina is. But it just didn't work out.

Of course I could be wrong. But it just seems to me that the look from the first season didn't work and would have been changed asap. But didn't happen til the next season. I would have preferred her in the minidress from Encounter at Farpoint then that grey thing and that hair style from the rest of the first season. But again, that's just my opinion.

Kent Taylor
Captain
Commanding Officer, Starbase 49

Troi did good, but Picard was both of them, and he had lived longer and had more, GRRROMBA.... He was stronger than his counterpart... Surprized

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Commander Starbase 49

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Adam Ristau link=1092879002/0#0 date=1092879002 wrote:
Why do people say that was such a bad movie?  It had a little more action than a normal Star Trek movie, but it didn't lose the personal touch at all.  Not many movies can balance the two out like that.  Does anyone have personal opinions on this subject?



Personally I loved Nemesis, I think the reason it didn't do well at the box office is because the full script was leaked onto the web, not only the early 'editions' were leaked but eventually the filmed script too was leaked, also some Brent Spiner fans have said to me that they didn't see the film purely because Data died at/near the end of the film.

Virginia.

Kent Taylor
Captain
Commanding Officer, Starbase 49

Some people like Data so much that they wouldn't go see the movie because he died? I liked Data but I also liked Tasha.

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Steven Smith
Lieutenant
Chief Strategic Operations Officer, Starbase 49

Tasha? Wow, I haven't heard that one for a long time. I was VERY disapointed when she died. If she wouldn't of died, she would have been my favorite character for sure throughout the series.

Athena Zoden
Commander
Chief Counselor, Starbase 49

Tasha was good. But there were times I'm pretty sure she wasn't needed. And I know you probably don't want to hear this, but Worf made a better chief of security. Maybe because I was never a big fan of Tasha. She was ok. But I don't know. She just seemed to not be needed. That's just my opinion.

Steven Smith
Lieutenant
Chief Strategic Operations Officer, Starbase 49

Yeah, he's only better because we got to kow him more. Tasha was on for like 7 episodes beofre she "died?" We really never got to see what's she's capable of. Maybe is she stayed around she could have gotten assimilated and that would have been a big money maker.

Kent Taylor
Captain
Commanding Officer, Starbase 49

Worf was better, I'm saying I like Star Trek and will watch all of them no matter who doesn't come back from a mission. Unless it's me-LOL

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Captain Taylor
Commander Starbase 49

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I really do not think Data is dead. I am in denial. I think he is being held by Q as a plaything or he placed a subroutine into B4 where B4 is really Data. In the final episode, we see Data way into the future. I think we are going to find out Q plays dice with the universe.

Athena Zoden
Commander
Chief Counselor, Starbase 49

I would love to think so.

Kent Taylor
Captain
Commanding Officer, Starbase 49

Tasha died in the 23rd episode, and Data felt the loss when she died. and Data did die in Nemesis, from what I here he didn't want to be on the show any more. as he was getting to old looking, something like that..

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Commander Starbase 49

Athena Zoden
Commander
Chief Counselor, Starbase 49

Yeah. That's what Brent Spiner said. I think it would be cool if Data didn't really die. But I do know that is exactly what happened. Data is Dead. It's sad but as Brent Spiner said, "Data may not age, but unfortunately Brent Spiner does." We have Data forever so we will just have to cherish those.

Steven Smith
Lieutenant
Chief Strategic Operations Officer, Starbase 49

Not to get emotional or anything, but Data is alive in our hearts. LOL

Athena Zoden
Commander
Chief Counselor, Starbase 49

Definitely. Brent Spiner made it possible.

Steven Smith
Lieutenant
Chief Strategic Operations Officer, Starbase 49

yup.

 Salikar
Lieutenant Commander
Chief Science Officer, Starbase 49

How could Data Die?? He's an android??  :

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Lt. Salikar
Chief Science Officer
Starbase 49

Back in Blue

Steven Smith
Lieutenant
Chief Strategic Operations Officer, Starbase 49

Yes he's an android and he can die because in words he was a living being and showed signs of life. And if something is living then it could die... in theory.

Athena Zoden
Commander
Chief Counselor, Starbase 49

Starfleet recognized his sentience. Not only that, even if Starfleet hadn't the crew of the Enterprise would have. And still thought of him as dying. Destruction is death. Isn't it?