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Roy VeldmanChangelings and the Borg
Posted on Tue, 11/30/2363 - 05:54 by Visitor
A friend of mine asked me a question the other day, and I've been racking my brain to try and find the answer.
We noticed that the Borg (to the best of our knowledge) were never on DS9, and we then wondered, "what would happen if the changelings were assimilated?" Is it even possible? I really hope someone has an answer to this question.
And if this isn't the place to find the answer, can someone please be so kind as to direct me to a source where I may possibly find the answer.
Many Many Thanks in Advance,
Robert J. Panetta
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I looked in all the files and the Borg was not in "DS9". And I'm not sure if we can discuss that in this post...
You can go here and look through all the files and see, it  has everything.
http://www.startrek.com/startrek/view/index.html
Captain Taylor
Commander Starbase 49
413 posts
I know for a fact the Borg were never on DS9. And I think the Borg would loose to the Changelings because they are liquid life forms. They don't hold a shape, so I don't see how the nanoprobes that are injected could work the same way. Just my opinion.
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That is a good point, but if the Borg did assimalat them would the borg be liquid life forms, that would really shake up the statis quo...
Captain Taylor
Commander Starbase 49
714 posts
Maybe the Borg aren't even capable of assimilating them. A bit like Species 8472.
Commodore Roy Veldman
2175 posts
I believe that to be a true statment, Captain, and it can found here. but there is nothing about the Borg...
Changeling:
http://www.startrek.com/startrek/view/library/aliens/DS9/article/70575.html
Captain Taylor
Commander Starbase 49
561 posts
Changeling borg, ha. That would be something I would love to see. I would think that if they were, then we probably would have lost against them since it was hard to control only changlings.
413 posts
Yeah, it would be cool. But I don't still don't think the Borg are capable of assimilating the Changlings. I think that would be the second race they wouldn't be able to aquire knowledge from. We know what the other one is.
561 posts
I think everyone knows what race that is.
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We heard in Voyager, the Borg could not assimalate Species 8472, also the Borg was not part of DS9, that I can remember, when I checked it out there was no mention of the Borg..
Captain Taylor
Commander Starbase 49
561 posts
Yea, I don't think the Borg were ever mantioned on DS9 but its like... What if they were on DS9 and confonted the changlings?
2175 posts
This is the best explanation yet...are you sure you don't want to be part of the Science Team?-LOL
Captain Taylor
Commander Starbase 49
561 posts
I think the only way they could adapt is adding flippers of some sort to move around. Or even possible to engage a auto freezing type device and then assimilate them.
714 posts
What about the pilot episode? Sisko's wife is killed by Locutus in the battle of Wolf 359.
Commodore Roy Veldman
561 posts
Your absolutly correct. How could anyone forget that episode? But I beleive that everyone is saying that was the Borg a part of DS9 as a series. The Borg only showed up in that episode just to clear up the differences between Picard and Sisko.
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Yeah, the battle of Wolf 359 was used in a flashback for understanding Sisko and his motivations. Which in my opinion was a good move. It let you see more of the victims from that battle because up until that time all you saw was a wasteland of ships that the Enterprise had come upon.
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Seeing all those ships made me sad and made me understand why Sisko hated Picard so much, eventhough it wasn't Picard's fault.
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Yes, and as you could tell, eventually I think Sisko grew to acknowledge that. In the end, everyone was victim of that battle.
561 posts
Indeed. Everone that watched the show was a victim of the battle. So sad I cried!
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Everyone that felt the show was a victim of the battle
Captain Taylor
Commander Starbase 49
561 posts
Umm... yea... that too. LOL
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Just a to go back and talk about the changelings...Odo has a comm badge he wears all the time...even when he changes into other things,(Episode 11 "Devil in the Sky" When odo is impersinating a HORTA to lure the young hortas back to the habitat ring, he uses his comm badge to notify OPS of his current situation).
My question is, if odo's "material" what he's made up of, is always part of him, then where is the communicators power source?
I guess what I'm trying to get at is, if he is able to create and absorb the communicator, then maybe, when assimilate, the changeling/borg just shift the nano probes in and out of liquid.
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Good question, I'm not sure what he would do. Maybe the energy for the badge comes from natural body energy.
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The Borg had no contact with the Changlings, the only way the Borg were in DS9 was in a flashback...IMO
Captain Taylor
Commander Starbase 49
413 posts
Yeah. In the series pilot. The Emissary from Sisko's POV. OTherwise no Borg to my knowledge.
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Sooooo there is no way to assimalate the changlings- No we don't know that, what we do know is the Borg was not in DS9,IMO
Captain Taylor
Commander Starbase 49
1807 posts
I doubt the Borg could assimilate changelings because they could disguse themselves as inanimate objects and so on.
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So there for they wouldn't even get a chance to, but on the other hand, all the borg would have to do is stick that inanimate object and they gotem...
Captain Taylor
Commander Starbase 49
I think that if one were assimilated, it would be very easy for him (it?) to undo the assimilation process.
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How? if they disguse them selves that means they are still themselves...
Captain Taylor
Commander Starbase 49
Well, I mean they can totally change their form, right? So if they were assimilated, they can probably push the technology out of them by turning inside out, or changing body functions to neuturalize the effects of the assimilation technology...I dunno.